Mon 18 Sep 2006
Why is Bosley not recommended on your sites?
Category: Common Questions , Complications , FUT (Follicular Unit Transplant) , Hair Restoration Physicians , Hair Transplant Repair , Physician Reviews , Selecting a Hair Restoration ClinicI’ve seen your informative website the Hair Transplant Network and I’m currently deciding who to go with. But I don’t see Bosley as a recommended physician or clinic. They claim to be the best in their TV ads.
I live in Florida (Miami) and want to know if you recommend their
clinic in Miami or Boca Raton.
Like many hair loss sufferers, I first got interested in hair transplantation after seeing a Bosley TV infomercial. When I saw my first Bosley infomercial over ten years ago I thought I had just found the Moses who was going to deliver me from the slavery of hair loss. His infomercials, tapes and brochures became my ten commandments. I virtually slept with his video under my pillow.
But in time I came to realize that outstanding promotions do not equal outstanding hair transplants. What I did learn is that the best value (quality and price) is not to be found at the heavily advertised national chain clinics. Rather the best values are the gem in the rough hair transplant clinics that do virtually no advertising and get patients from good word of mouth on and offline. Unlike the national chain clinics, these quality independents often do just one patient a day and focus on quality rather than quantity.
These high quality independent hair transplant clinics with proven track records are the clinics presented on the Hair Transplant Network and the Hair Loss Learning Center. These independents are also often praised on our discussion forum. I recommend that any person considering a clinic first use the “Find” feature on our hair restoration discussion forum to search our forum database for any info about the doctor or clinic they are considering – including Bosley. They will then find any good or bad experiences posted by actual patients. Generally the patient reviews from the national chains like Bosley have not been favorable.
To learn about independent hair restoration physicians in South Florida who have proven quality track records visit our recommended physicians in Florida.
Since getting involved with hair restoration as the publisher of the Hair Transplant Network, I’ve met Dr. Lee Bosley on several occasions at various hair transplant meetings. In person he is Marcus Welby, Moses and your kindest grandfather rolled into one – just like he is on TV. So I found it very interesting to read Dr. Bosley confiding to the New Yorker in the January 9th, 2006 issue that “I have my regrets, in retrospect. I got to the point where I felt pretty guilty doing it.”
Apparently since selling the Bosley Medical Group four years ago to Japanese wig maker called Aderans for $40,000,000, he now feels comfortable in recounting how horrible hair transplantation was in the early days. Some how his candid comments reminded me of Robert McNamara’s recent confessional interviews in which he apologized for his part in orchestrating the Vietnam War. Strange what old age will do to a man.
In this New Yorker article Dr. Bosley described his early work in the 1960’s by saying “If it grew at all, it was in different directions – clumpy, bedraggled, three hairs of out of a plug . . . if there was any hair growing at all it was a success – it was – look it’s growing! – and it looked like crap.”
So how did a company who by its founder’s own admission provided results that “looked like crap” become the largest hair transplantation company with ninety two offices? The answer is lots and lots of TV.
According to the article Dr. Bosley worked his way through medical school in Omaha by “selling pots and pans door to door”. So apparently he learned a thing or two about sales.
With the power of TV, even sub pare results would not stand in the way of success. After all, this was in the days before the interactive Internet in which hair loss sufferers like you could talk back. With TV – perception could over come reality and still largely does.
Dr. Emanuel Marritt, a famous hair transplant surgeon who is now retired, explained it in the following way – “You have a population of patients who are emotionally extremely vulnerable, willing to pay anything. And you have a doctor with a mountain of advertising debt who needs to break even. It’s a conspiracy of two: a patient who doesn’t want to hear what he really needs, being operated on by a doctor who doesn’t want to tell him.”
The article states that today the Bosley Medical Group is “both the world’s most successful transplant company and among the most maligned.” The article points to Bosley Medical Group’s many lawsuits. For more detailed information visit the Bosley Medical Violations Site.
Apparently Dr. Lee Bosley who in the article is described as the “self-anointed Renoir of transplantation” is still plugging away (so to speak) in the back office for a fee that is twice the regular Bosley price. Despite selling the Bosley Medical Group he retains an office and with over 38,000 hair transplant procedures to his credit, he is ready to take on number thirty eight thousand and one.
His TV fans will no doubt sleep better knowing that some lucky morning they may begin their day as his patient.
So my suggestion is to look past the infomercials and sleep tight and don’t let the late night hair infomercials bite.
Pat, Publisher of the Hair Transplant Network and the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center
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October 20th, 2006 at 7:12 pm
Personally, I am going to have to disagree with this article. I had a Bosley procedure done about a year ago and had a fantastic experience. So did my brother-in-law who had a procedure done a few years ago (had two by now) with Bosley.
From the people I’ve talked to who actually went through this procedure with Bosley, everyone had a great experience. Which is not to say that some might have a bad experience.
With that being said, I would say that more important than reading on these forums, is to actually just go in and meet the doctor and see the clinic that you are considering.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Jesse,
I am very relieved to actually hear good news from a bosley patient, I just had 2036 transplants done at Bosley for a cost of a little under 12,000 dollars. I had this done on 12/15/06. So it’s only been about six weeks. I went to their Dallas office. So far everything they told me has happened. For the first couple of weeks I had a bunch of little hairs growing in the frontal area and top, now, six weeks out they have almost all gone. I must admit after stumbling onto this website and reading all the negative comments about Bosley I have gotten nervous. I am 42 years old and have been thinning very slowly for about 20 years in the frontal top area. I would like to talk with any former Bosley patients that had good experiences like yourself, I do feel better after reading your letter. I was starting to wonder if any bosley patients were happy with their results. I guess I will know in a few months how it went for me.
Eric
May 17th, 2007 at 3:25 am
eric, so it’s been several months since you got your Bosley transplant. how is it?
December 6th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
There is a negative website about Bosley from a disgruntled patient (“bosley medical violations”).
See http://www.bosleymedical-vs-michaelstevenkremer.com
for rebuttal.
Make your own decision.
F.O.B.
June 15th, 2008 at 11:39 pm
I have had two procedures done with Bosley and I am thrilled with the results of the first procedure (Jun 07) and just finished the second a week ago (Jun 08), so will see how that turns out.
I am surprised the host of this site does not talk highly of Bosley, as I had my first procedure done in Dallas and the second in Atlanta and both were smooth and professional experiences.
I was a Norwood Class 5 before the first procedure. The difference after a year has been night and day for the positive! I almost didn’t do the second procedure because I was so satisfied with the first one. I am glad I went through with the second procedure, as it was a great experience and within two days I was not wearing a hat and nobody noticed the new grafts at all!
My Bosley experience has been great! The only downside I see is the price, as it seems other places charge less, but I’d rather overpay and know I’m getting an experienced surgeon with a good track record than underpay and get a bad operation!
For the record, I do not have any affiliation with Bosley otherthan being a happy patient! :) I have copied this post into several seemingly negative Bosley articles as a satisfied patient rebuttal.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
I went to Bosley nearly 10 years ago (Atlanta), and am very happy with the results. A friend also had similar results. I am getting ready to go back so I was doing research again to see what has changed.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:35 am
There’s no doubt that Bosley has satisfied patients. However, because Bosley is a chain with hundreds of doctors and staff, we have no way of knowing which doctors are using state of the art techniques and which ones aren’t. Bosley has their own method to determine who meets their standards.
Over the last several years, I’ve read mixed reviews and seen mixed results coming from Bosley. I’m thrilled for those who are happy and have great empathy for those who have less than optimal results, regardless of the surgeon.
For those who want to share their experiences and photos or view other Bosley patient experiences with pictures, visit our discussion forum at http://www.hair-restoration-info.com/eve.
Best wishes,
Bill (Falceros)
Associate Publisher of this Community
August 13th, 2009 at 4:44 am
some of you guys are misleading the public the picturs show that some of the people are look alikes…and people do anything for money.4 instance my sister had hair transplants in her hair from bosley and it fell out more after her surgery than bfore it.there are lots of wig and extensions out there this is not a good treatment…wig do work make the right desicion
August 13th, 2009 at 4:47 am
some of you guys are misleading the public the pictures show that some of the people are look alikes…and people do anything for money.4 instance my sister had hair transplant in her hair from bosley and it fell out more after her surgery than before it.there are lots of wigs and extensions out there this is not a good treatment…wigs do work make the right desicion
September 30th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
People really just need to know what they are getting into.
#1) You are likely to NOT have the look you want after only one procedure. People are seeing these great results; but they need to remember, this is likely a result of several procedures. I’ve had 3 with Bosley and I’m contemplating a fourth. (And note that several people that have no knowledge of my transplants assume I have “all my hair”.)
#2) There WILL be scarring from the donor area. Once you’ve made the decision to go ahead with a procedure, know that shaving your head later down the road isn’t really an option anymore. (Unless you don’t mind the scars showing.)
#3 Hair still present in the area receiving the grafts may very well fall out because:
a) the scalpel used to make the plug receptor cut hair below the hairline.
b) the procedure is simply stressful on the area and this in turn knocks some hair out.
Both of these are often temporary, and if the hair wasn’t genetically coded to fall out anyway, it will grow back.
To say a transplant is “not a good treatment” really is a matter of opinion. Bottom line, get extremely educated on the procedure before jumping in. If you don’t, I guarantee you’ll be disappointed.
October 29th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
I don’t know if i want to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on my hair… how expensive is this? how long until perfect hair results?
October 29th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Jesse,
Surgical hair restoration can be expensive…especially if you end up needing more than one procedure which is very likely depending on the amount of current baldness and future hair loss to come. Hair restoration is not a cure, but can often yield cosmetically pleasing results in many patients who are qualified candidates. Clinics typically charge approximately $4 to $8 per follicular unit graft (depending on the type of procedure) and session sizes typically range from several hundred grafts (those with minimal hair loss) to several thousand grafts. The result of each procedure take approximately one year to fully grow in and mature.
I hope this helps.
Bill Seemiller (Falceros)
Associate Publisher/Editor
November 1st, 2009 at 5:45 am
is the Bosley hair regrowth treatment with minoxidil topical solution 5% a good product?is it better than Regaine minoxidil 5%?what are the diffrences between these products…thank you
November 1st, 2009 at 8:14 pm
I will tell you that approximately 4-6% of the Bosley patients that have had a procedure there are multiple problems. What are they?
1. The procedure not growing or very little hair growth
2. Excessive scarring in the donor area where it is very visible.
3. No feeling on the scalp or where the donor strip was removed.
Or all of these in combination. Bosley is doing approximately 9500 procedures a year. If you factor the percentage of problems per year that is 380 to 570 bad hair transplants for patients per year x 10 years it is 5700 patients who are screwed for life.
The economy has put added pressure on the company to get people in the chair. If these unhappy patients were to come together in unison this would be huge.
The pressure mounted on the counselors at this time is huge. They have introduced products in their consultations and are expected to sell x-amount or they are fined 250.00 per month for not meeting the sales quota they were given on product sales. The same goes for hair transplants they are given a quota to meet per month. This is a high pressure environment. I would love to bring together patients from across the US to bring their complaints and results a voice.
I work for the company and feel the heat. If the economy were better I would be gone. I have tons of information that would lead an attorney to have his jaw drop to the floor.
The sales consultants are just that not counselors. The company has made it tough for the consultants to be honest but it is really on the the upper management and the Doctors. John Ohanesian, Armen Markarian, Jim Lever and Jim McEvoy, Rob Spurell know these names these are the people who control Bosley, oh we must not forget Dr. Washenik too.
You would be blown away the information that I possess about the real goals of the company and straight from the horses mouth in recorded conversations, emails and such.
I am not saying that the majority of patients are not happy but how would you like to be among the 6% who have had these serious issues. I would say 60% are satisfied with the results after the first procedure but 34% are not and complain and shooed away. The 6% that have serious issues are ignored until they make to much racket and then they pay them off and sign a release to never come back.
There are serious issues and one day I will turn the information I have over to an attorney for a class action lawsuit. Think twice. If anyone has any questions I will answer them the best I can.
I also want to say there are some good doctors at Bosley too that really try but the politics of the company stop them from being better.
Later….
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Koko,
Bosley hair regrowth formula, Rogaine, and generic minoxidil treatment are all topical solutions containing the same dosage of the active ingredient minoxidil. Thus in my opinion, purchase and use the lead expensive of the bunch since you’ll achieve the same end result.
I hope this helps.
Bill Seemiller (Falceros)
Associate Publisher/Editor
November 19th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Use of the tobacco drug and exposure to toxic tobacco smoke will cause hair loss. This is why smoking should be banned everywhere and then we ban the tobacco drug.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:33 am
I have had two procedures at Bosley and they have been perfect! I am planning to have my third and final procedure early next year. The doctors and staff simply can’t be beat. FYI, if you go to a doc that only does one procedure a day, I would say he/she has insufficient experience as a result, and may deliberate too much on the insignificant.
November 28th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
I had a procedure done in may and right now i am not seeing any results much. Should I be worried? Its been 6 months. Does bosley stand behind there guarantee? I was wondering if they are good about standing behind there work. Everything looks good so far, except waiting on the hair…
November 30th, 2009 at 2:13 am
Hugh,
Hair transplants are typically considered mature 1 year after the procedure. However, in my opinion, contact your clinc to share your concern at this stage. Open communication between patient and physician is important.
Hang in there,
Bill Seemiller (Falceros)
Associate Publisher/Editor
January 29th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
I’ve been to Bosely and got great results,but that doesn’t mean it will be the same for everybody like they said results may vary
February 1st, 2010 at 7:23 pm
You guys dont use Bosley!
i use to work for them and this is how they get you as soon as you call for a free information pack they will ask you for all your information. and a week later they will call you harassing you to come in to talk to one of our counselors who know everything about hair transplant (they are actually sells men who are really good in talking you into spending money)
then your in the system for ever and you will get a call from them everyday. and if you ask to be taken off the calling list they will not take you off they will just put it in the system to call you back in about 3 months. the first thing they told me was “these people that are calling don’t have hair so they are self conscious about their bold head so make sure you set them up for a consultation. if you guys do call don’t give them your correct #. or you will regret it.
March 3rd, 2010 at 10:50 pm
I see that hair loss is very common among men, but what about women? I am 27 and losing my hair. Does this sound normal? I have been to the doctors and they do not see anything wrong with me. My doctor also doesn’t recommend I use Rogain since it messes with fertility and I do plan on having children in the next 5-7 years.
I really want to try something. I can’t even put my hair in a ponytail without anyone noticing.
March 5th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Elizabeth,
Genetic hair loss is not uncommon in women. Rogaine should not be used by women who are pregnant or nursing; however, I’m not aware of long-term fertility issues. This is something that should be discussed with a hair restoration physician, along with other options, in my opinion.
Best,
Anthony (youngsuccess)